By ralph kalal if you have a latemodel car, it may not have a dipstick for checking the transmission fluid. Introduced in 2004, the c2 marked the first usage of the freightliner c2 chassis. Transmission fluid levels school bus fleet magazine forums. Established in 2002 by navistar through the reorganization of subsidiary manufacturer american transportation corporation amtran, ic currently produces school buses and commercial. Dec 07, 2016 this video goes into detail about how to properly drain, refill, and change the filters on the 3000 and 4000 series of allison transmissions with 2 and 4 sumps. The manual goes by the maintence minders builtin the system. Eight distribution centers across north america with access to over 1 million parts. The ce series was engineered from the tires up to withstand the rigors of daily use and. Transmission fluid question for honda civic 2008 ex. Toyota super cvt cvt fluid tc yes nissan ncvt matic fluid d yes hyper cvt cvt fluid ns1 yes hyper cvt m6 extronic cvt m6 cvt fluid ns2 yes extroid cvt m6 cvt fluid ktf1 no honda multimatic ultra atf yes ultra atfz1 yes mitsubishi motor invecsiii cvt atfsp iii yes invecsiii sports mode 6cvt fuji heavy industries ecvt ecvticvt fluid yes.
If excessive temperature is indicated by the transmission oil temperature gauge, check the oil level in transmission. International maxxforce 7 diesel engine overview mechanics hub. Allison transmission is a leading global supplier of fully automatic bus transmissions. It also is utilized in the international cxt, a pickup truck built on the international 20ton hauler platform. This is just a quick video showing a basic maintenance item but i thought it might help some getting ready to change their fluid. This is so that theyll shift easier, because the old school, really thick, gooey lubricant that they used in manual transmissions often made them very difficult to shift at colder temperatures. Since the antiidling has come into effect for a lot of school districts our buses have an. Fuller 5 and 6speed mediumduty manual transmissions eaton. Xtm5qs or xt4qgl replaced sae 80w manual transmission fluid f2zz19c547a for pre1989 manual transmissions note 6. In an automatic transmission, gear ratios are selected by the transmission itself. Most newer cvts are stuck with oe cvt fluid since regular pathetic oe atfs didnt provide the protection that was needed. The thomas saftliner c2 often shortened to thomas c2 is a cowledchassis bus manufactured by bus body manufacturer thomas built buses. Nov 11, 2011 with the transmission fluid warm and your foot on the brake, cycle the transmission through the gears so that fluid is in all of the internal passages.
Transmission fluid plays an important role in this conversion. Allison transmission revolutionized school bus transportation decades ago when we introduced our fully automatic transmissions to school bus drivers and. The old fluid didnt look too bad, consistency was good and so was the colour. The manual transmission in one of my cars is often subjected to high rpm and i have found that a lube change once a year aids shift action and feel. They also state that the vehicle will let me know when fluid change is needed by dashboard warning light illumination. Transmission fluid provides muchneeded lubrication to the complex set of gears and other moving parts in the transmission of a vehicle. Under the reference tab you will find the service manual button. Saftliner c2 school bus maintenance manual nelsons bus. Techtips servicing transmissions without dipsticks. Ic bus originally ic corporation is an american bus manufacturer that produces yellow school buses and commercialuse buses shuttle buses primarily for the united states and canada, with limited exports outside north america. This is a full size 72 passenger vehicle based on the popular tc2000 chassis design.
Oct 30, 20 this transmission fluid will be good until the transmission decides its going to fail, which isnt until 140,000 to 160,000 miles, so the consumer felt comfortable with that statement. Headquartered in lisle, illinois, ic is a wholly owned subsidiary of navistar international. For brake fluid, my understanding is that it should be replaced once every 3 years or 30,000 miles. The advantages of connected diagnostics add peace of mind for school bus fleets. Transmission fluid school bus fleet magazine forums. I am about at my wits end with this, and am hoping someone here can help me. Eaton extends fluid service interval for school bus. Sep 23, 2011 if a fluid change is necessary, then you should switch to transynd or one of the other tes295 approved fluids and change the filters to the new allison high capacity filters.
Topmounted fuel and oil filters electric entrance door easytile threepiece fiberglass hood widest entry door in the industry. Ic bus originally ic corporation is an american bus manufacturer. They said they couldnt change it cause theres no easy way to fill with new. Manual transmissions oil levels should be checked by a napa autocare center when the engine oil is changed. I am not familiar with the best resource to start with is the operation and maintenance manual. Transmissions take far longer to warm up than engines do. Your cars transmission is responsible for converting the engines power into motion for the wheels. Home service manuals for blue bird school buses service manuals central states is pleased to be able to offer our customers online service manuals for a number of our products, including the blue bird parts catalog and blue bird bus owners manual. If you know that the previous owners have changed the fluid by the book and on time for the life of the car, then i think it is good to continue that maintenance. I would like to know by miles like for how many miles once should this be replaced. Note that the automatic transmission holds about 10 quarts of fluid, of which only 3. Blue bird corporation and northrop grumman electronic systems have developed the first purpose built allelectric school bus. Our authorized service technicians are fully trained on all of our engines and have the necessary equipment and genuine cummins parts to promptly handle any type of service issue. Eaton fuller transmission fluid changing and magnetic plug.
Saftliner c2 school bus maintenance manual, march 2011. We received new international buses recently powered with maxxforce 7 diesel engines. In the rare event that one is triggered while the bus is in operation, it can be diagnosed immediately over the air, through the addition of connected diagnostics. For total fluid change add 27ml of xl18, mt82 transmission additive. This is a quick list i threw together for our trucks.
Call 1800cummins 18002866467 for information and service locations. Refer to the oil check procedure in your allison transmission operators manual. Inspect the transmission filter for damage or corrosion during all preventative maintenance checks. Allison offers a complete range of fully automatic transmissions and hybrid propulsion systems for transit and city buses. The little amount on the tip of the dipstick is not bright red like new fluid should be but not clear, may be a redish brown tint that old clear fluid would have. Then, youll be good for 300,000 miles before another transmission fluid change is needed unless it gets contaminated. The replacement for the sseries schoolmaster, the 3800 used powertrains and components from the 4700 and 4900 lines of mediumduty trucks. Galesburg, mi power management company eaton has announced an extension to its fluid lubrication service maintenance interval for its procision line of mediumduty dual clutch transmissions for school bus applications that will lower or even eliminate fluid changes the new interval is now 10 years150,000 miles, a change from 3 years150,000 miles that was announced when procision was. Fuller 5 and 6speed mediumduty manual transmissions. The c2 comes standard with an allison 2500 automatic transmission with an allison 3000 automatic transmission as an option. If you dont know your body number, it is usually located inside the bus above the windshield on the body data plate or you can use the vin. The 2008 45005500 medium duty trucks received the 350 hp and 610 lbft version of the engine, which come with the aisin as68rc or the mercedes g56 manual.
Eaton procision transmissions for school bus applications have a fiveyearunlimited mile warranty. In 2005, the 3800 was replaced by the 3300, a design based. The procision design life b10 is 10 years400,000 miles. However, i keep hearing that i should change it anyway, so i took it to an express lube place this morning. Last week i went to pep boys, and did like the manual said, told them to use genuine honda transmission fluid. Then, with the engine idling, remove the fill plug. Here, at carid, we know your car needs to be looked after in a proper way. Over 1,000 service locations ic bus and international truck over 9,000 technicians. Eaton extends fluid service interval for school bus transmissions. Poor performance fixed with new injector wiring harness. We are committed to providing maximum operating value, ease of operation, enhanced driver control and superior passenger comfort. Thats why allison transmission revolutionized school bus transportation decades ago when we introduced our fully automatic transmissions to school bus drivers and fleets who know the importance of safety on the road.
Engineered for and meets the requirements of honda automatic transmission with dw1 and z1 specifications. Procision transmission fluid service interval for school bus. Duramax fluid types and capacities chevy and gmc duramax. The best way to do it is to drive it good and hard for 15 to 20 miles. Not only does this make it difficult to check fluid level and condition, it also eliminates the dipstick tube or opening through that fluid is normally added to. Feb 08, 2017 an overall inspection is the logical first step. Headquartered in lisle, illinois, ic is a wholly owned subsidiary of navistar international with its manufacturing base in tulsa, oklahoma. Transmission fluid change 3x drain and fill, inline filter, automotive, 3 replies. The maintenance schedule in my manual says that the transmission fluid does not need changing. Its a big responsibility to ensure the safety of school children. A low fluid level may indicate a leak somewhere in the system, possibly at a cooler line that runs to the bottom of the radiator. If you would like to save 20% when purchasing amsoil products, here is a link to set yourself up with an amsoil.
Is there a similar set of numbers for transimission fluid. Check with he owners manual, if it is serviceable it will inform you as to. Since 2011, the 68rfe automatic transmission offered with 350370hp and 800 lbft version of 6. Transmission filters should be changed during regular transmission lube change intervals. While produced largely for school bus use, the c2 is also produced for multiple applications, including specialty and commercial configurations. That seem quite boastful especially if it includes the filter. Replacing the bus chassis variant of the international harvester loadstar, the s series chassis continued the use of the schoolmaster product name. You need buses that reach their destinations with ironclad predictability.
Retired allison transmission fluids engineer engines. Service manual service manual section 3200, 4200, 4300, 4400, 7300, 7400, 7500, 7600, 8500, 8600 series built after march 10, 2004 electrical circuit diagrams truck model. How to change your transmission fluid popular mechanics. This video goes into detail about how to properly drain, refill, and change the filters on the 3000 and 4000 series of allison transmissions with 2 and 4 sumps. Fuller 5 and 6speed mediumduty manual transmissions the robust transmission system combines an industrypreferred fuller transmission with a solo selfadjusting clutch to deliver up to 6070 percent lower lifecycle costs than a conventional automatic, extended component life, increased uptime and improved productivity, with available. Honda 2008 civic transmission fluid question maintenance. Transmission fluid traditionally has been petroleumbased, but with the introduction of synthetic transmission fluid in 1972, synthetic fluid has become increasingly popular because. The saftliner c2 is the only school bus in north america offered with a manual transmission. This transmission fluid will be good until the transmission decides its going to fail, which isnt until 140,000 to 160,000 miles, so the consumer felt comfortable with that statement. This is a worldclass transmission that helps deliver safe, confident and easy operation for any school bus driver by delivering optimal performance in many driving environments. If a fluid change is necessary, then you should switch to transynd or one of the other tes295 approved fluids and change the filters to the new allison high capacity filters. Mine is a 97 z3 i changed my transmission fluid very recently. How often should the transmission fluid be changed for civic 2008 ex automatic. Transmission oil filters are required for all 2050 lbft and 2250 lbft rated transmission models, and for all procision models.
Procision transmission fluid service interval for school. There is a lifetime fluid in the transmission which does nor required regular service, however id suggest to replace it including the filter also at no more than 100k miles. As for the tranny, our international has a mark near the bottom of the stick for the cold fill that says 72 degrees on it. There is a lifetime fluid in the transmission which does nor required regular service, however id suggest to replace it including the filter also at. Jan 16, 2010 the manual transmission in one of my cars is often subjected to high rpm and i have found that a lube change once a year aids shift action and feel. Click the service manual button to get a list of available manuals. To change the fluid, the transmission must be connected to a doublechambered tank, and run in neutral so its internal pump pushes all the old fluid out and the new fluid in.
School bus drivers have enough to pay attention to without being concerned about engine fault codes. Aug 16, 2015 transmission fluid change 2008 mazda 6 if you are wondering how to install or remove or replace an part on your car, i hope this video will help show you how to change it. Count on our network of local dealers to be your complete source for ic bus parts, plus parts from other brands you know and trust. But many, many manual transmissionsof course there arent that many of them left anymorebut many of them use automatic transmission fluid. Retired allison transmission fluids engineer engines fmca. You can feel the fluid on the end of the stick to see if its good and warm when you check it. How to check oil and other fluids hill international trucks east.
This is so that theyll shift easier, because the oldschool, really thick, gooey lubricant that they used in manual transmissions often made them very difficult to shift at colder temperatures. While operating conditions may require more or less frequent fluid change intervals, we have designed extensive specifications and testing programs to ensure. Thats why we offer you a spectrum of 2008 smart car fortwo motor oils and engine lubricants by the leading manufacturers. With an annual fluid and external filter change, a typical at 545 will last reliabaly to 150,000 miles or more. Noticed minimal difference after changing the fluid. Specifications of a international dt 466 engine it still. Transmission fluid traditionally has been petroleumbased, but with the introduction of synthetic transmission fluid in 1972, synthetic fluid has become increasingly popular because it doesnt lose its viscosity, or coating ability, as quickly. In a manual transmission, the driver selects the appropriate gear ratio with a lever and a clutch pedal. A few weeks ago, my hondas civic 2008 maintenance minder lit up telling me i need to change transmission fluid. Im wanting to add then road test then change fluid if transmission checks out ok. Transmission fluid change 2008 mazda 6 how to change. Built transmissions of any year run recommended transmission fluid per kitbuilder instructions. Allison 4000 series automatic transmission filter and fluid change procedure. Service manuals for blue bird school buses central.
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